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Vinay
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In the following couple of posts I will put few requests which primarily consists of improvements in UI and should be easy to implement. Hope few of them make their way into OT-2021.
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Vinay
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Period Type:
Instead of the "Period Type" Drop-down it would be more efficient and time saver if it is replaced by Buttons as in VisualTrader.
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Vinay
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Improved Search
Many of us have Focus List which contains more than 1000 symbols. At present we have to keep on moving scrollbar up and down to find the symbols we are interested in. If instead we get a search bar similar to Windows where after we start typing the symbols start to gets filtered matching our typed criteria. It will dramatically reduce time and efforts required to search a particular symbol.
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Vinay
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EZ View
The Normal View and EZ View can have different columns with different sort order. While it is good to have this feature but it creates one problem. Suppose we are viewing one symbol in Normal View and then switch to EZ View to see the column data which is unique to EZ View only. Unfortunately we lose focus from that symbol and we have to scroll up down to find it. It would be very nice if the same symbol remains in focus when we switch views.
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Vinay
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Symbol Button
At present the Symbol Button can accommodate only 6 letters. In our case many symbols have 10 or even more letters. It becomes very difficult for us to type the symbol. It would be very nice if this button is expended to accommodate at least 10 letters. To save space the label "Symbol:" can be shortened to "Sym:" The Money Zone Master View also has the same problem regarding Symbol Box and we want this to be expanded as well.
The actual symbol here is "BHARATFORG" but it is truncated due to lack of space.
Attached file : Symbol.jpg (3KB - 1417 downloads)
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Vinay
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Market Snapshot
One very important feature which is missing from OT is a Market Snapshot showing a compact view of important color coded Market Statistics like important Index Values, Market Trend, VIX, Advances/Declines etc at one place. It would be great if these can be customized. It can be implemented by way of a Separate popup window which can be shown by clicking a button (like Money Zone Master View).
I am aware that OT has OmniView but that is not customizable and has very limited useful market related information and above all it is of very little use for International users.
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Buffalo Bill
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Monte Carlo simulator
Been asking for this VERY IMPORTANT testing tool for YEARS.
This is not a hard thing to code and add in
There is NO EXCUSE
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Buffalo Bill
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Options Trading - currently for options OT testing results and real trading results are not even close, with testing giving overly rosy results (very rosy).
This has to be fixed asap or give us methods/settings to close this gap considerably
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Jim Dean
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Hi, Vinay
I appreciate your suggestions. However, could you *please* just list them all in one post, rather than separate posts?
The multiple posts are *flooding* the inboxes of every user who is monitoring the forum.
Thanks.
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Vinay
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Sorry Jim,
I was not aware of that as I have not subscribed to mail notification. I posted separately for greater focus on each of them. However in future I will keep in mind the problem faced by people like you who have subscribed to mail notifications.
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EYEGUY
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Buffalo Bill:
Yes, Monte Carlo Simulator, please.
Maybe with a side of Howard Bandy's safe-f and CAR25.
Tom Helget
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Vinay
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Right Aligned Numbers
At present all the columns in the Focus List are left aligned. While this is view is correct for the columns which contains text like "Symbol", "Name" etc but for the columns which contains numbers this is not the best way to display the data. A better approach is to display them right aligned. This is the normal practice everywhere.
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Buffalo Bill
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Tom
"Maybe with a side of Howard Bandy's safe-f and CAR25."
YES
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Vinay
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Plotting Signal & Exit Information
The Trade Management tool enables us to add an entry signal anywhere on the chart and configure the exits. This is very useful feature particularly for discretionary trading. However at present there is no way to configure the color, width and type of plotted exit lines as a result many times it becomes very difficult to figure out which line displays which Stop specially when we have multiple Stops.
This Tool should follow the defaults set for these lines in the Chart Options/Trades/Plot Properties for Stops. This small enhancement will make it very useful.
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Greg H
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How about a detachable strategy window from below the vote line. That would help maintain chart/indicator real estate while permitting the ability to see what strategies are firing (long lists). Similar to focus list detachment.
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gary
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I have purchased a rather large collection of Nirvana packages. I suspect there are quite a few others in this forum who would say the same. It would be nice if there was an easy way to generate a comparison table that showed how each package owned by me was performing in the current market. I recognize this may not be particularly easy since some strategies and systems work best with a particular list of symbols and also may have have several other unique characteristics that are defined in profiles built specifically for them. But such a comparison table would be very useful for us when doing prospecting.
While this may be too difficult to put in as a feature in OT, maybe Nirvana could generate such a comparison table for all Nirvana packages and make that available to customers on a periodic basis (daily if possible or weekly maybe). No back test or walking forward test, just how has each package done on the right edge over the last 6 to 3 months. I suspect all of us would very much like to see such a table.
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Barry Cohen
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Gary, you pretty much described Hot Strategy Finder, which is located under the Mode menu. It allows you to compare your strategies to a list of symbols & test period. Though it's up to you to decide the symbol list & test period.
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Right Aligned Numbers
At present all the columns in the Focus List are left aligned. While this is view is correct for the columns which contains text like "Symbol", "Name" etc but for the columns which contains numbers this is not the best way to display the data. A better approach is to display them right aligned. This is the normal practice everywhere. |
Plotting Signal & Exit Information
The Trade Management tool enables us to add an entry signal anywhere on the chart and configure the exits. This is very useful feature particularly for discretionary trading. However at present there is no way to configure the color, width and type of plotted exit lines as a result many times it becomes very difficult to figure out which line displays which Stop specially when we have multiple Stops.
This Tool should follow the defaults set for these lines in the Chart Options/Trades/Plot Properties for Stops. This small enhancement will make it very useful. |
This will be in PR2A.
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EYEGUY
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Barry:
Super! Thanks!
Tom Helget
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Vinay
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Originally written by Vinay on 12/1/2020 4:45 AM
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This will be in PR2A.
Thanks Barry. After going through the brochure for OT-2021, I decided to skip the upgrade because from my perspective there was nothing worth upgrading. But it appears that you will not let me skip :-)
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Vinay
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Originally written by Vinay on 10/8/2020 8:34 PM
Period Type:
Instead of the "Period Type" Drop-down it would be more efficient and time saver if it is replaced by Buttons as in VisualTrader.
Please see if this request can also be included in OT2021. For RealTime Trading where we need fast action this small improvement can be very helpful.
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Barry Cohen
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We can't make that change to the Period Type toolbar. First because if there were buttons it'd make the toolbar much longer in length than it is & that's bad for different reasons. But second, OT doesn't have a limit of 7 timeframes like VisualTrader has, & I'm pretty sure nobody wants a timeframe limit imposed.
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Vinay
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Got it. Thanks for clarifying the reasoning behind dropdown.
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Vinay
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Originally written by Barry Cohen on 12/1/2020 8:30 PM
We can't make that change to the Period Type toolbar. First because if there were buttons it'd make the toolbar much longer in length than it is & that's bad for different reasons. But second, OT doesn't have a limit of 7 timeframes like VisualTrader has, & I'm pretty sure nobody wants a timeframe limit imposed.
What about an additional Period Type Toolbar similar to this one in addition to the existing one?
It would be very convenient to switch between time periods in EOD Profiles. Hope it will be considered for inclusion in OT-2022.
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Vinay
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Originally written by Vinay on 10/8/2020 8:46 PM
Symbol Button
At present the Symbol Button can accommodate only 6 letters. In our case many symbols have 10 or even more letters. It becomes very difficult for us to type the symbol. It would be very nice if this button is expended to accommodate at least 10 letters. To save space the label "Symbol:" can be shortened to "Sym:" The Money Zone Master View also has the same problem regarding Symbol Box and we want this to be expanded as well.
The actual symbol here is "BHARATFORG" but it is truncated due to lack of space.
We badly need this enhancement. Hope it gets implemented in OT-2022.
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Jim Dean
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You can type in all ten letters. As soon as you do, it shows up in the Symbols focus list where you can see it in full.
Screen space around the border is at a premium, if you want to display all the tools and you can’t always use full screen on the monitor. Some of the existing controls are too wide as it is. So, any requests to widen those tools will meet with some resistance by other users.
There are many other entry fields in OT with similar “too thin” sizing - all the Param pane fields, for instance. The widest number visible there is 12345, or 12.34. But the widest possible actual input is -12345.67
In this case, there *is no other* display where you can see the whole entry. If any field in OT needs widening, it’s this one.
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Vinay
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In that case may be one additional Symbol Button which is larger than the existing one. It will be very helpful for us without offending others. One can display whichever is suitable for them.
Additionally as suggested in my original post, to save precious screen real estate the label "Symbol:" can be abbreviated to "Sym:"
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Vinay
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Multiple Symbols on the same Chart Window:
Plotting multiple symbols on the same chart window for comparison to see which one is showing more strength. Also whether the symbol is stronger or weaker than market index. It will also complement Rocket Trader Method.
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aztrix
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IMHO The problem here is that buttons take a lot more screen space (which is finite) than a dropdown list and as you can imagine the more buttons you have the less space you have for the good stuff coming it OT22
YMMV
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Aztrix
Originally written by 388891 on 10/7/2021 10:34 PM
Originally written by Barry Cohen on 12/1/2020 8:30 PM
We can't make that change to the Period Type toolbar. First because if there were buttons it'd make the toolbar much longer in length than it is & that's bad for different reasons. But second, OT doesn't have a limit of 7 timeframes like VisualTrader has, & I'm pretty sure nobody wants a timeframe limit imposed.
What about an additional Period Type Toolbar similar to this one in addition to the existing one?
It would be very convenient to switch between time periods in EOD Profiles. Hope it will be considered for inclusion in OT-2022.
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aztrix
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Out of curiosity Barry, other than the segments and a few different ranking attributes, what's the difference to running PortSim with all the strategies enabled and comparing the individual results?
Forgive my ignorance if this is a dumb question …
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Aztrix
Originally written by 291234 on 11/8/2020 10:32 PM
Gary, you pretty much described Hot Strategy Finder, which is located under the Mode menu. It allows you to compare your strategies to a list of symbols & test period. Though it's up to you to decide the symbol list & test period.
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Barry Cohen
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| Out of curiosity Barry, other than the segments and a few different ranking attributes, what's the difference to running PortSim with all the strategies enabled and comparing the individual results? |
OT is only able to place one trade at a time for a given symbol. I'll give you a simple example. Say you run an analysis of 2 strategies, with one strategy giving a long signal & the other giving a short signal on the same bar. If you run them separately it's easy & you just take all the trades, but ran together there's a conflict, OT or Port Sim has to decide what to do in that & other situations.
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aztrix
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Ahhhhh, ok thanks Barry. So are you saying that if you run the PortSim analysis on the individual strategies it won't help, the buy/sell has already been set in the "To Do" processing?
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Barry Cohen
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I'm saying that OT's Strategy Voting as well as Port Sim/ATM have their own ways of dealing with those situations. I don't want to get into the details on each since there are different scenarios to consider depending on what certain settings are set to, but also this is a 2022 requests thread. :)
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Buffalo Bill
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Monte Carlo Simulator, please.
Maybe with a side of Howard Bandy's safe-f and CAR25.
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EYEGUY
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Buffalo:
I second that request!
Tom Helget
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Buffalo Bill
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-Make the individual pages in the brokerage (open positions, closed positions, etc) EXPORTABLE to .pdf, CSV, etc.
-Monte Carlo Simulator, please.
-Maybe with a side of Howard Bandy's safe-f and CAR25.
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Vinay
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Ability to sort scans by alphabetical order is nice. It would be very useful if the last run date is also displayed for each scan because we don't run all scans everyday and this information will help us to decide if we need to run the scan again or can skip for the day.
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Keith Parsons
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Vinay - a good request
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