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How do i install my plugins for OT2020?

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Subject : How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/24/2020 7:48 AM
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Hello,

I want to install my plugins in OT2020. How to install? I remember we have programs like get_my_plugins or setup_plugins but i can not find such programs in OT2020.

Any feedback will be appreciated, thanks,
Irwan
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/24/2020 7:53 AM
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Have you tried going to Help/registration/get my cdkeys ?
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Posted : 11/24/2020 8:18 AM
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Hi Larry,

Thank you for your feedback. I tried Help -> Registration. It displays a screen and message "No new CD-key found" and listed all my plugins.
But how to install my plugins?
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/24/2020 8:22 AM
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Barry has an extensive post on that: Post #4204

Maybe the link to it will work:
https://www.omnitrader.com/currentclients/otforum/thread-view.asp?threadid=1082&posts=1
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/24/2020 9:00 AM
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One problem to be aware of - if you have a lot of OT stuff not ALL of it may get installed using "get my plug ins"

Trade secrets, ARM (club) add on for SW5 and CPS7, etc

Here are the manually installed plug ins I needed. I figured these out by comparing the get my plugins list with my downloaded installs and looked for missing items.

A couple of them are the same plug in, but different versions, and I'm not sure if either was complete. I installed the older one first then the later.

Be nice if on the support page these were highlighted for us, incl download links... JS

Now this is a huge step forward - I remember the days before get my plug ins even existed... But still needs a little work
Attached file : plug ins.jpg (68KB - 373 downloads)

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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/24/2020 9:09 AM
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In my case I guess I got lucky. The only plug-in I installed separately was the new Gator and I have these installed with the normal install routine:

Attached file : plugins.png (19KB - 926 downloads)

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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/24/2020 1:53 PM
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Are you sure the CPS7 GA and SW5 GA add ons got installed? They are separate installs from the base program, and I don't see them listed. Did you buy trade secrets or ATM Micro states?

Look at my pic and see if there's anything there you might've bought then check to see if it got installed

BTW we shouldn't have to be detectives to make sure everything we purchased get's installed
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/24/2020 4:18 PM
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Hi, Buffalo, and thanks for your list of program icons.

To begin this comment, I want to stress that Nirvana products are generally helpful, some are very good, and likewise much of Nirvana educational programs. Especially Ed's webinars! Otherwise I would not be a ~30 year follower of Nirvana.


But there are persistent customer related problems. And this is one of them:



https://www.omnitrader.com/currentclients/otforum/thread-view.asp?threadid=1082&posts=1
Here is a list of what plug-ins can be used for each version. This color indicates the install is not yet included in the Get My Plugins found on the latest installation. This color indicates the install is included in the latest installation, but not the previous one. The Get My Plugins downloads are always the latest.

OT2021: (R1): CPRM3, Volume Systems, Guppy, iTLB2, Darvas, Pring, CPS3, OmniScan, Pattern Scans, GroupTrader 2, Woodie's CCI, NSP-31, Turtle, Integrated Brokerage, Fulcrum, Hot Strategy Finder, NSP-33, Strategy Wizard, WaveTrader 2, Seasonality, Hurst, RTStrategy, Fulcrum 2, Money Zone, GroupTrader 3, T3 Power Suite, iTLB3, OptionTrader, NSP-41, Strategy Wizard 2, Volume Systems 2, Guppy 2, PairTrader, Dynamic Profit Module, Dynamic Strategies, Money Zone 2, CPRM4, Profit Bands, OptionTrader 2, TradeScope, ACT, Top Gun, Seasonality 2, Strategy Wizard 3, RTM7, PositionTrader, CPRM5, Profit View, Swing-13, DTM, RT Strategy Suite, VBX-3, Intrinsic Trend, Ichi Cloud, SnapAnalyzer, RTX-3, ACT2, RS1, Secret Sauce 2(OT), Fibonacci Trader, Money Zone 3, Ultimate Swing Trading, OptionTrader 3, TradeScope Pro, MVX-15, Ultimate Indicator Suite, MS-16, CPRM6, WaveTrader 3, ForexTrader, OptionTrader 4, Ultimate Swing Trading 2, Connors RSI, MVX-15 V2, ARM5 RTM-17, SqueezeTrader, XLS-19 V2, T3 V2, ITM2, X-Suite, iZones, Z3, ATM, Ultimate Indicator Suite 2, Strategy Wizard 4, OptionTrader 5, Debit Magic Suite, Credit Magic, ATM Group Rotation, Vortex, VATS Method, GroupTrader 4, Market Pulse, Profit Magic, RTSS3, MTVision, ZacksStrategies, ATM3, Hidden Divergence, ATM Resilient, CPS7, Fulcrum 3, Rhino Suite, Breakout Package, Strategy Wizard 5, Swing Trading Fences, Harness Relative Strength, OptionTrader 6, ATM Elite Strong Tech, ATM Elite Steady Trend, GatorTrader


1. One of my pet peeves is with the official annual listing of programs included and excluded in the "Get My Plugins" for a new annual release of OT: They are not in ALPHABETICAL ORDER , and thus unnecessarily difficult to actually find and crosscheck.

2. Buffalo: I found two of your program icon listings that are in Barry's list:
SwingTrading
ATM3


3. But most of the items in your icon listing are *NOT* in the official Nirvana OT2021 list, and also not noted in red at the end of that list: (I have Questions about three of your icons that you posted)
12Days
MarketScan
Arm6Stock
MicroStates
TS-Adaptive
ATMMacro
TS-Profiting
StrategyWizard
TS-Profiting Q: You have this icon listed twice?
TradeSecret
Guppy2
ATMSmartC
ATAM3(1) Q: Is this a copy?
XZones
TS-MajorR
CPS7GA
tradesecret
TS-Adaptive Q: You have this icon listed twice?


4. I agree with the spirit of this thread, that this annual ritual of trying to figure out what Nirvana has not included in the "Get My Plug-ins" is very frustrating, *AGONIZING*, and seemingly unnecessarily difficult.
I think the problem is that they have a very narrow view of what they want to be bothered with installing.

Nirvana seems to use the nomenclature of "plugins" to exclude wide swaths of programs/resources that we purchase but then are left on our own to deal with the after-affects, of Nirvana not bothering to included them as options in the auto installation *process*.

It is not like they do not know what we have purchased!! All of the courses for which I have paid show up in my account.

Besides course resources for which I have paid, are NClub resources for which I likewise have paid but are *not* listed in my account.

And it get worse: *NONE* of these last two groupings are listed in red at the end of the list of resources, as not being included in the "Get My Plugins". A simple prior year listing of *NEW* (OT2020) program and NClub resources, rather than a longer list going back in time, would be of great help in this matter.


Every year . . . Oh, well.


--Mark G.

Let's see if someone on N staff "shadow bans" me again for mentioning customer problems for which they do not want aired out. It has been done before . . .






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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/24/2020 4:50 PM
Post #47618 - In reply to #47617

I agree with Mark’s concerns. The annual ritual is a PITA.
While I do appreciate Barry keeping the list up to date, it really *should* be alphabetical.
Get My Plug-ins should load *everything* that the user has a license for at the time of the first OT release for that year. Even the special NClub stuff.

My personal gripe is that it takes an incredibly LONG TIME to execute. And you can’t just kick it off then go to bed. About 20% thru the process, a popup appears requiring you to respond about some CPS thing … say “yes” or abort. EGAD! Who’s gonna say “no”? And, if you wake up in the morning to find the install paused at 20% because of that silly prompt, it really is an “argh” moment. Following that, you’ve no idea how many more such prompted pauses will occur - so you have to keep half an eye on the process as it SLOOOWLY completes.

Nirvana - please either remove those prompts, or if they are absolutely needed, ask about them all at the start of the process.

Don’t get me wrong, even as it stands, Get My Plug-ins is FAR BETTER than having to laboriously install everything one at a time.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/24/2020 6:54 PM
Post #47619 - In reply to #47616

Buffalo - I may have been too hasty. Right now, everything I am using is working but that is limited so it takes awhile to discover everything.

I may have mis-interpreted my about screen too. It's what I have but not necessarily installed.

As a cross-check I was doing a folder file count compared to 2020. /Tradeplans had 171 in 2020 and 179 in 2021.
/Strategies 2020 492, 2021 496
/Plugins 2020 76, 2021 77
/Profiles 2020 137, 2021 139
/VBA/Indicators 2020 64, 2021 64.

I will probably eventually find something missing but so far, so good.

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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/24/2020 9:28 PM
Post #47621 - In reply to #47617

Mark

RE:

"SwingTrading
ATM3"

yes I missed those in the get my plugins list. So I guess I installed those twice!


3. But most of the items in your icon listing are *NOT* in the official Nirvana OT2021 list, and also not noted in red at the end of that list: (I have Questions about three of your icons that you posted)
12Days
MarketScan
Arm6Stock
MicroStates
TS-Adaptive
ATMMacro
TS-Profiting
StrategyWizard
TS-Profiting Q: You have this icon listed twice?
TradeSecret
Guppy2
ATMSmartC
ATAM3(1) Q: Is this a copy?
XZones
TS-MajorR
CPS7GA
tradesecret
TS-Adaptive Q: You have this icon listed twice?

So the ATM3(1) was an update on the original ATM3 and like I said I seem to remember it was different and I think was also needed. Don't recall why I think that!

The 2 TS ones I just missed and had 2 copies downloaded. Only one required

I think GMPI also covers Guppy2.

The SW listed is the ARM add on - separate install

I have 4 OT loads so keeping this stuff straight is a big hassle!

Oh, I wish patterns were NOT automatically enabled (at lvl 5) when you install OT. If you don't use it but it's on it just slows things down! Change the default to OFF plz
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/25/2020 8:10 AM
Post #47622 - In reply to #47613

Thanks for all feedback, the info in Barry's post has solved my problem, thank you again.


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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/27/2020 9:42 AM
Post #47627 - In reply to #47618

One of my pet peeves is with the official annual listing of programs included and excluded in the "Get My Plugins" for a new annual release of OT: They are not in ALPHABETICAL ORDER , and thus unnecessarily difficult to actually find and crosscheck.


That list on the forum plugin page is the order that plugins are released. By being in that order allows me to also show which newly released plugins are not yet included in Get My Plugins. That couldn't be done if it were alphabetic. I can make you an alphabetic list of plugins if you want, but from the looks of it the list you seem to want is the list of things to install that is NOT included in Get My Plugins. And the reason many things are not included in Get My Plugins, like Trade Secrets & ATM Method installs, is because those installs do not have individual security. There may be a few we can add to Get My Plugins though.

About 20% thru the process, a popup appears requiring you to respond about some CPS thing


That would be a bug that I wasn't aware of. I'll check it out. Get My Plugins should have zero prompts after you get it started.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/27/2020 12:21 PM
Post #47629 - In reply to #47627

Barry - how about alphabetic but use COLORS to show whether in GetMyPlugins or not. Seems like best of both worlds.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/27/2020 2:11 PM
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That's very time consuming to do that. It still seems to me that having that list alphabetic is not useful. Mark made a great point, "thus unnecessarily difficult to actually find and crosscheck." But again that would be better solved by a list of things that are NOT included in Get My Plugins.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/27/2020 2:26 PM
Post #47631 - In reply to #47630

Far LESS time consuming than the many HOUR it takes many users to deal with this annually. Please put priority on users time. Thanks.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/27/2020 2:45 PM
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Yes I agree - I will make a list of things that are not included in Get My Plugins.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/27/2020 5:07 PM
Post #47633 - In reply to #47632

I'm probably missing some, but I think this is a good start. Let me know what I'm missing if you find any & I'll later add it to the plugin faq.

Installs not found in Get My Plugins (These only apply to customers that have these products)

Miscellaneous
Nirvana's All Indicator Suite
SwingTrader
Swing Trading Fences
Trade Secret 1 - Adaptive Trading
Trade Secret 2 - Profiting From Volatility
Trade Secret 3 - Major Reversals

ATM Methods
ATM ARM5 Method (Nirvana Club Only)
ATM Micro States Method
ATM Macro & Micro Method
ATM Smart Calls
ATM XZones Method

Nirvana Club Only
12 Days
StrategyWizard 5 ARM6
CPS7 GA
ARM6 Stocks
ARM5 Real Time Profile
ARM5 in Multiple Time Frames
ARM4 2015
VBX NN
ARM4R2
NSP-35
NSP-33 NN
NSP-31 NN
Trading Secrets Strategies Vol. I and II
Campivot
Trend Break
FVE (Finite Volume Element)

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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/27/2020 5:33 PM
Post #47634 - In reply to #47633

Thank you Barry that's a useful list, I had forgotten some of these!

The obvious question is could you package these installs in an .exe?

If not, given that the installs are found in different locations could you put these installs in a single location and give us a link?
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/27/2020 5:38 PM
Post #47635 - In reply to #47634

Packaging them wouldn't work since a lot of customers would be installing things they can't use. But I can get download links for the non club things. All the club downloads are on the club downloads page already.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/27/2020 5:55 PM
Post #47636 - In reply to #47610

Thanks Barry you do a great job for us all!
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/27/2020 9:16 PM
Post #47637 - In reply to #47633

Barry

How about a club specific "get my plugins.exe"? Since we all get club stuff it could be packaged up into one thing.

This list keeps getting longer. There is ARM4 stuff on it? CAMPIVOTS are how old? Trendbreak goes back to 2010 I think...

Where is the ARM5 ATM method download BTW?
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/27/2020 10:04 PM
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In the meantime:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13DIJEYcer8iT6qcDxfeWOZc71RFfXpvN/view?usp=sharing
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/27/2020 11:10 PM
Post #47640 - In reply to #47635

Some quick feedback.

1. I have a swing trader email that takes me to squeeze trader. Are they the same?
2. I can't find any assets for Trade Secret 3 - Major Reversals
3. I did find another TS - Trade Secret 4 - Finding Big Reversal Moves with Divergence - it contains 3 strategies starting with DTM...
4. I also found BP Compression Files in Trade Secret 2 - Find and Trade the Best Breakouts with the Breakout Package - Breakout Package Webinar.

I could find the rest of the items you listed, although I did spend some time tracking down emails from Ed to get the correct links.

It's definitely a good idea to provide a download page for the non club things.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/28/2020 9:09 AM
Post #47642 - In reply to #47633

FYI

trendbreak, RSITLB and campivot installs don't see OT21. Dynamic strats only sees 2020
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/29/2020 10:43 PM
Post #47644 - In reply to #47610

Barry,

Thanks for the lists.

A question: SwingTrader? There are several things with "Swing" names:
a) Swing-13
b) Ultimate Swing Trading/Trader. NOTE: Both terms are used in the "Helpful information about the plug-ins." Search for "UltimateSwingTrader". You'll find it in VT12 and VT11.
c) Ultimate Swing Trading 2
d) Swing Trading for the Fences

But, I don't see a link anywhere to "SwingTrader," which I assume was a recent plugin.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/30/2020 1:56 PM
Post #47650 - In reply to #47642

The installs for Trend Break, FVE, Campivot, & Dynamic Strategies are now updated to install to OT2021.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/30/2020 2:11 PM
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Great!

Ummm now where do we get them? Nirvana downloads are all over the place - club, support, trade secrets, swing trading, Rel strength, Elite, etc! I looked in the club page and didn't see them but it's kind of a mess so I may have missed them. If downloads can't be centrally located on one page at least provide a page with LINKS to EVERY possible one.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/30/2020 2:34 PM
Post #47652 - In reply to #47651

Thanks Barry, that makes a huge time difference in finding downloading and installing!

Is All Access Pass registration the same as All Indicator Suite PlugIn?
If so I get an All Indicator Suite Plugin error message - "The login information entered was not found.
Please try again or call us at 1-888-Nirvana to obtain the correct login information."

The ones below wont install
ARM3R5RT
NSP31_NN_v2
NSP31_NN_v3
NSP31Strategies
TradingSecretsStrategies
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/30/2020 3:01 PM
Post #47653 - In reply to #47644

SwingTrader was just a special promotion we did with a simple strategy. It can be downloaded here.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/30/2020 3:04 PM
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Ummm now where do we get them? Nirvana downloads are all over the place - club, support, trade secrets, swing trading, Rel strength, Elite, etc! I looked in the club page and didn't see them but it's kind of a mess so I may have missed them. If downloads can't be centrally located on one page at least provide a page with LINKS to EVERY possible one.


That's my goal with this page, Bill. The trade secrets & others are near the bottom since they aren't like regular plugins.

https://www.omnitrader.com/currentclients/otforum/thread-view.asp?threadid=1082&posts=1
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/30/2020 3:08 PM
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Is All Access Pass registration the same as All Indicator Suite PlugIn?


No, All Access Pass was an older OTU University promotion while the All Indicator Suite was a new promotion about a year ago. All Access Pass only needs a cdkey while All Indicator Suite needs a cdkey as well as an installation. If you can't login you probably didn't purchase it.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/30/2020 3:11 PM
Post #47656 - In reply to #47637

Where is the ARM5 ATM method download BTW?


You find the ATM installs on this page. I haven't yet added them to the plugin faq, but I will soon.

https://www.nirvanasystems.com/support/
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/30/2020 3:11 PM
Post #47657 - In reply to #47655

Hmm I have a registration for All Access Pass showing in OT.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/30/2020 3:39 PM
Post #47658 - In reply to #47654

Oh snap!

Got it - my bad!

Forgot about this page - thanks Barry
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/30/2020 3:47 PM
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Hmm I have a registration for All Access Pass showing in OT.


Yes, because you have the All Access Pass key. There's no install for it, just a key.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 11/30/2020 4:11 PM
Post #47660 - In reply to #47652

The ones below wont install...


ARM3R5RT & NSPs are fixed. TradingSecretsStrategies isn't easy to fix quickly, gonna have to look at that later.

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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 12/1/2020 2:33 AM
Post #47667 - In reply to #47650

Originally written by 291234 on 12/1/2020 12:56 AM

The installs for Trend Break, FVE, Campivot, & Dynamic Strategies are now updated to install to OT2021.



Barry, These installs still have timestamp of 2016. Where you have posted the updated installs?


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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 12/1/2020 8:47 AM
Post #47675 - In reply to #47667

Vinay, some of them were updated in 2016, but never got put in the correct place. I tested the installs for Trend Break, FVE, Campivot, & Dynamic Strategies & they install to OT2021.
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Subject : RE: How do i install my plugins for OT2020?
Posted : 12/1/2020 2:29 PM
Post #47703 - In reply to #47675

I updated the plugin page with the ATM installs that aren't part of Get My Plugins & also updated this page with every ATM install.


https://www.omnitrader.com/currentclients/otforum/thread-view.asp?threadid=16333&posts=40