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Colin945
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Barry, I read your post in the 2008 SW forum and have a few questions.
Do we have anything published that gets into the Fast Search method in more detail, especially whether the settings should be changed depending on problem size and what the sampling approach is, e.g. Latin Hypercube?
I don't think we covered this in your webinar on SW a year or so ago. I have a couple of questions open with Ryan and he referred me to your post.
Colin
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Barry Cohen
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Nothing outside of that faq, forum posts, & the SW3 documentation. Ryan is out for a couple days, but if you have a specific question that a developer might be able to answer I could ask for you.
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Colin945
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Hi Barry,
I've read through the SW documentation and all it does is refer to the Fast Search without explaining the settings. What would be very useful is a document that lists each setting, what it does, and how/if it should be adjusted based on total permutations.
The documentation implies there is some 'intelligence' being used to narrow the search space but it is clearly important to select enough samples, appropriately spread through the search space, to give a reasonable chance of finding a good optimum.
I agree that for a lot of this optimization all one wants is a 'good' strategy, not necessarily the 'best'. That's where having a bit of an appreciation of the search approach being used is helpful. Do we build a proxy model?
I'm not trying to discover any proprietary inventions that Nirvana has but I think that the Fast Search is pretty basic compared to some of the stuff that I use in my profession. The thing with even the simplest approaches is that one does need to know how to best use the settings.
Any light you can throw on this area should be of use to all of us using SW.
Many thanks,
Colin
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Jim Dean
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This has been repeatedly requested before. In fact, during the somewhat rudimentary SW coverage given last year in OTU, we were told that there would be a future course or installment covering Fast Search.
It's amazing to me that the feature has been there so long without useful documentation. I know a lot of people who use and swear by SW, but none of them has any confidence in Fast Search.
IMHO, nirvana should either fully document it with examples and advice, etc - or should deactivate it so as not to further foster confusion and frustration.
Nutshell - don't hold your breath. :-)
[Edited by Jim Dean on 2/18/2013 2:00 PM]
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Colin945
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Jim:
I do a lot of work in the area of optimization in my day job, and there are many approaches to Fast Search that can really work well.
I agree that having a tool without instructions is very dangerous. However I should be very upset if such a powerful capability was to be chucked away.
I can only hope that Ed is listening because the combimation of SW and PS can be very powerful. If we truly want to develop the nirvana of automated trading then i believe that good optimization and statistical analysis is the way to go.
Colin
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