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Mark Holstius

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Subject : New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/2/2016 3:44 PM
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I’ve been working extensively the past few months trying to lower the level of risk while also increasing the flexibility of trading paired RTM-ETF Custom Strategies, and I believe I’ve made progress on both fronts.

The Paired RTM-ETF Custom Strategy concept relies on taking many small trades with RTM-ETF combinations that have been consistent in the past. My hope is that increasing the number of Groups, ETFs, RTMs, and Custom Strategy pairings will mitigate some risk through greater diversification. I also hope that it might allow trading with lower trade Allocation percentages while still obtaining a reasonable return - which could help with slippage for MOO orders with lower volume ETFs.

With that in mind, I’ve posted a “Flexible By Design” Portfolio in Elite Trader that was constructed utilizing;

42 Groups
Containing 347 ETFs
Paired with 23 RTMs
To create 778 Custom Strategies;
......526 Long Strategies
......252 Short Strategies


All of my selection algorithms used were developed during or prior to 2015, but this is my first Portfolio containing a much larger set of Custom Strategies to see if the additional RTM-ETF pairs actually help. Doing this takes advantage of some of the ETFs that’ve come on the market since the last recession, but I was concerned that adding ETFs that only began trading the last 5-8 years would add a bias to the recent performance. Fortunately, that doesn’t appear to be a significant factor.

My primary goal was to add more RTM-ETF trades from different groups, thereby utilizing the equity sitting idle in my original portfolios. As always, there are times when a group (Large Cap Stocks, etc.) will enter a number of trades at the same time. This can be unfortunate when wrong, but statistically proves to be a benefit in the long run.

Over the period from 1/1/2007 – Present, I’m happy with the improvement in the depth and breadth of trading;

My original Margin Portfolios took 1401 trades with an Avg % Inv of ~57%
This new Margin Portfolio takes 2232 trades with an Avg % Inv of ~93%

The examples below used 20% allocation / Strategy with Buying Power set at 190%.

1) The Past Year (BTW: the first time I’ve ever seen a Calmar over 40)





2) Past 2 Years






3) Past 5 Years






4) 1/1/2007 – Present






You can also use this Portfolio in an IRA by simply adjusting the Portfolio Trade Multiplier, Buying Power, and setting the Maximum Short Allocation to 0% as shown;






Below are the results from applying those settings to trade the Portfolio’s 526 Long Strategies in an IRA vs the 143 in my current Low Risk RTM-ETF Longs portfolio;


5) The Past Year






6) 1/1/2007 – Present







My Account Settings are similar to those I posted for my other portfolios. I’ve adjusted the Minimum Trade Size down to 1% and have the Maximum Exposure unchecked, but still taking 2 trades / symbol if available (not a particularly common occurrence).






As I said, there have been a lot of ETFs created since 2009, and this is an attempt to take advantage of the diversification they can add. Barring some obvious oversight or error I might find, I plan to let them trade until the next Bash to see how they perform over time. These new Custom Strategies utilize some younger and probably lower volume ETFs, so I reiterate that it’s an experiment. I hope that some of you will come along and contribute to a collection of data on slippage, etc. – and I hope we all make a bit of money along the way.

For those of you currently subscribed to both my Long & Short Portfolios, changing your subscription to this Portfolio should be an easy choice - you’ll get the added benefit of 508 additional Custom Strategies for the same price (currently). I reserve the possibility of a change upward if this experiment is successful… but if that’s the case, we’ll all be happy. ;-)

Those of you trading my Low Risk RTM-ETF Longs Portfolio in an IRA can continue to do so, or drop that and subscribe to this new one instead in order to use the 526 Long Strategies available in this Portfolio (an additional 383 Long RTM-ETF Strategies vs the 143 in my Low Risk RTM-ETF Longs Portfolio).

Whatever you choose to do, I certainly wish you luck in your trading…

Mark


BTW: My next post will explain how to make use of an Excel spreadsheet I designed to easily calculate the settings needed to obtain any combination of Margin Levels (Trading Equity) and Trade Allocation sizes you may want for testing different levels of risk… either with this Portfolio or any that you might be using.

[Edited by Mark Holstius on 8/2/2016 3:58 PM]

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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/2/2016 8:13 PM
Post #36108 - In reply to #36105

Very nice Mark!

Steve
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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/2/2016 8:30 PM
Post #36109 - In reply to #36108

Great work Mark! I'm all set to trade it at open tomorrow.

Thanks for sharing it.

-Bruce
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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/3/2016 1:16 AM
Post #36110 - In reply to #36105

fantastic work mark,looking forward to setting up the new portfolios today.
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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/3/2016 12:55 PM
Post #36116 - In reply to #36110

Astounding!

A few questions -

1) I have one position open in the current long/short portfolio pair. If I change my subscription, will that position be gracefully closed?

2) Is the new portfolio priced the same?

3) For me, a more critical stat than CALMAR is the "happiness index" which is the mean bars between new highs. (Actually I'm sure I could quantify it better by weighting the max bars between new highs with the mean...) Is the new portfolio similar or better to the old pair?

Thanks!

Keith

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Mark Holstius

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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/3/2016 2:18 PM
Post #36117 - In reply to #36116

Hi Keith...

1) I have one position open in the current long/short portfolio pair. If I change my subscription, will that position be gracefully closed?

Since this is new, I really don't know. AFAIK, it's supposed to handle it OK, but I think this is the first "real test". If you're willing to watch it, maybe you can verify that it really does work...???

2) Is the new portfolio priced the same?

Yes... Flexible By Design is $100/mo - the same price as subscribing to both the Long & Short Portfolios in the past. (and you get 508 more Custom Strategies).

3) For me, a more critical stat than CALMAR is the "happiness index" which is the mean bars between new highs. (Actually I'm sure I could quantify it better by weighting the max bars between new highs with the mean...) Is the new portfolio similar or better to the old pair?

I totally agree. Unfortunately, I'm a bit miffed at Microsoft at the moment. They "upgraded" Excel in Office 365 on the Mac and broke it somehow. Now it won't open my large analysis files. Grrrr

So, I don't have the stats I used to be able to give until it gets fixed.

Sure looks OK when I step back year-to-year though. You can do that on your own too - just check "Use Prior Year" in the Account Settings and then change the Simulation End Date by -1 year to step back and re-run to go back in an orderly way.

I've also had some questions on setting this up, so here's a recap of all the details I see as of today, 8/3/2016 in a Margin Account starting on 1/1/2007;






Mark


[Edited by Mark Holstius on 8/3/2016 2:23 PM]

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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/3/2016 10:52 PM
Post #36122 - In reply to #36116

Hi Keith,

I also have one position open in "Low Risk RTM-ETF Longs" It is "DES" , opened August 1st.

Today, I canceled both of Mark's low risk strategies ( because for me they renew tomorrow) and replaced them with the new "Flexible by Design" portfolio.

I noted that "DES" was not an open position in the new portfolio although I had started the simulation from July 3rd.

So I expect to have to close "DES" manually.

If there is a kind soul who has "DES" open and sees it being closed by "low Risk RTM-ETF Longs", I would appreciate a heads-up in this forum.

Cheers,
Arby
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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/4/2016 3:00 AM
Post #36123 - In reply to #36116

Originally written by kmcintyre on 8/4/2016 3:55 AM


1) I have one position open in the current long/short portfolio pair. If I change my subscription, will that position be gracefully closed?



Yes there should be a graceful exit, OV 'knows' you have a strategy in play that you no longer use but it will complete the trade on that strategy as normal.
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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/4/2016 5:54 AM
Post #36124 - In reply to #36122

Hi Arby...

According to a post by Barry yesterday, it should be handled correctly;

http://www.omnitrader.com/currentclients/omnivestforum/thread-view.asp?threadid=7740&posts=2




Guess we'll find out, huh? ;-)

Mark

[Edited by Mark Holstius on 8/4/2016 5:56 AM]

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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/4/2016 7:09 AM
Post #36125 - In reply to #36124

HI,

So far so good. Trade Processor is showing a managed position for DES.

Arby
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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/4/2016 11:19 AM
Post #36126 - In reply to #36125

Mark, all,

I subscribed and replicated your results in simulation (1/1/07 - 8/1/2016). I have a few days of overlap on my subscriptions, so I'll watch DES until 8/10 with subscription. After that I trust what Barry sez! lol

Let the good times roll!

Cheers,

Keith

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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/4/2016 11:28 AM
Post #36127 - In reply to #36126

Mark,

So why did you remove the Max Exposure % per Symbol = 60% setting?

Thanks!

Keith

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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/4/2016 7:34 PM
Post #36129 - In reply to #36127

Hi Keith,

The 60% limit was there to cause the original Low Risk RTM-ETF Portfolios to take 2 different size trades when 2 Strategies traded at the same time using the same symbol.

In a Margin Account (BP 190%) the first trade would be 20% of the available Trading $ (20% of $200,000 = $40,000) and the 2nd would be 10% (10% of $200,000 = $20,000).

The Max Exposure is based on the original equity ($100,000), so it had to be doubled to 60% to correctly use the 2X Margin.

Problem is, if you change the Margin then you have to change that Max % in the same proportion - so it makes it more difficult than I was trying to do.

I want this Portfolio to easily adapt to everyone's desires for Margin, % Allocation, and use in an IRA - so I made the decision to drop that setting.

i.e. See my "Portfolio Settings Calculations Spreadsheet" post at: http://www.omnitrader.com/currentclients/omnivestforum/thread-view.asp?threadid=7742&posts=3

It now takes the 2nd trade at a % equal to the 1st. Sometimes that hurts, but statistically over time it helps. You can see the effect by simply changing the Max Strategies from 2 to 1. If trading 2 was a net negative, things would be better using 1.

Also, you previously asked about the days to a new high (length of a DD), and today I was able to get a limited version of my extensive analysis spreadsheet working...

So, here's a comparison of the Margin Low-Risk RTM-ETF and the newer Flexible By Design as far as DD statistics;





With the Flexible By Design Portfolio the time in a DD:

Avg is 1 day shorter
95% of the time it's 4-5 days shorter
The Max is 25 days shorter

Hope that helps,
Mark


[Edited by Mark Holstius on 8/4/2016 7:37 PM]

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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/4/2016 8:04 PM
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Mark,

Yes, that helps a lot! Sure seems like a better mousetrap!

Cheers

Keith

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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/7/2016 11:02 PM
Post #36136 - In reply to #36126

Hi Keith,

Keep an eye on "DES" for me. Trade Processor just gave me this error message:

"The Trade Processor could not be started for the following reason: arby7/154014: Failed to retrieve orders/positions: EliteTrader portfolios enabled without subscription ......"

I think I will have to remove "Low Risk RTM-ETF Longs" as an enabled portfolio to get TP to open.

Cheers,
Arby
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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/8/2016 5:51 AM
Post #36137 - In reply to #36136

Good morning Arby,

Hmmmm. That's above my pay grade, but maybe(?) it's because you subscribed over the weekend and something needs to be done at Nirvana to enable it that won't be done until they come in Monday AM?

Anyway - I've sent an email to Barry and Angela to ask them to look at this.

Mark

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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/8/2016 6:19 AM
Post #36138 - In reply to #36136

Ooops,

I just looked and I show DES as a closing trade this morning (Monday 8/8/16) for everyone trading it...

Mark
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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/8/2016 6:46 AM
Post #36139 - In reply to #36138

Thank you for the heads up! I canceled and resubscribed last Wednesday.

Arby
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Subject : RE: New Flexible By Design Elite Trader Portfolio
Posted : 8/8/2016 9:56 AM
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Arby,

Please do remove the elite Low Risk RTM portfolio now that the subscription has expired. I am still seeing that portfolio active in one of your OmniVest accounts.

Thank you,
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Sure wish OV had a more sophisticated trade sorting capability...
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