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Diamondjag
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I was looking at the new CT trader but wanted to change the stops. I like the Guppy CBL stops so I applied them. But…I don’t understand what the Nirvana Guppy Trailing CBL stop is doing.
It seems to trail nicely at first then seems to forget where it is….see below. I am assuming that on a setting of “3” it puts a line at the lower low of the last three days.
I like HA bars. You can see why below. I have plotted the G-CBL indicator (3) – Blue line and the stop for the Nirvana Guppy Trailing CBL stop (3) Trade Plan – Red line on HA-DAILY chart. I then plotted the same stops on a DAILY chart.
I put the internals of the TP at the bottom of the screen shorts below. Stops based on H/L Prices.
What I want is for the stop to exit as shown on the blue line below (Guppy CBL Indicator) but the Guppy Trailing CBL stop diverges about half way up and doesn’t catch all the price bars at the top of the run.
Can you tell me what’s going on here and how I can make the TP stop behave like the blue line Guppy CBL Indicator?



[Edited by Diamondjag on 3/17/2022 4:17 PM]
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aztrix
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Howzit Diamondjag?
I understand why you're a big fan of the Guppy CBL, I have been a long time fan too.
The key to the Guppy CBL is that it uses the most recent high in an uptrend as it's starting point, not the the lowest low of the last three days.
So once you have the most recent high, count back the 3 most significant lows i.e. ignore lows higher than your previous significant low.
See the attached chart using your example on the daily with H, L3 and 4 Xs (that are insignificant lows) marked on the chart.
I hope this makes some sense, for reference check https://www.guppytraders.com/cbl-info
Cheers
Aztrix
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aztrix
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It's also supposed to use a close below the CBL, try using CBL 2 if you want tighter stops …
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jawjahtek
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aztrix, thank you for describing the logical rules for the Guppy CBL Indicator. It increases my confidence in an indicator when I understand the rules that it uses.
Do you (or anyone else) know the rules that are used for N's Previous Bar Level that was introduced in the Harnessing Relative Strength module? As often done in N's webinars, it was described as "similar to the Guppy Count Back Line, but different". PBL usually has the same values for each bar as CBL, but there are exceptions. I am curious as to what causes the exceptions.
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aztrix
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Sorry jawjahtek, I'm afraid I haven't come across that yet. I'll see what I can find on the Harnessing Relative Strength module and get back to you if I learn anything noteworthy …
Cheers
Aztrix
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