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Help with Multiple Entry Strategies
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Subject : RE: Help with Multiple Entry Strategies
Posted : 9/25/2021 4:46 PM
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Good afternoon, all…
I’m catching up on my reading over the weekend and wanted to say thanks for all the info provided in this thread in just 2 days.

Not sure if this suggestion might help, but maybe using SYSIND() in an indicator or system might help in calling and combining the output of multiple systems.

Here’s a snag of what I got applying it to CTX-1 and VBX-4 on the SPY as a quick test;




Selecting SYSIND in Omnilanguage brings up this:

SYSIND("",0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0)

So, I’m not sure of the parameters you’d need to apply. Maybe Barry can weigh in on that. (?)

Hope everyone has a good weekend,
Mark

P.S I just realized that first snag was awfully large, so I've re- posted it a bit smaller.

Also - I ran the SPY again using just VBX-4 since my test impressed me so much with the signals from Jeff's new system;



[Edited by mholstius on 9/25/2021 5:25 PM]

Attached file : SysInd example2.png (212KB - 217 downloads)
Attached file : Just VBX4 Entries.png (81KB - 218 downloads)

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Subject : RE: Help with Multiple Entry Strategies
Posted : 9/26/2021 8:25 AM
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WOW! That is great, Mark! How did I ever miss that? I wonder when it was released? Do you have any other docs about it? Can it work with ANY system?

I started asking for a feature like this gosh maybe ten years ago ... I'd sort of given up. I can't believe I missed this!


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Subject : RE: Help with Multiple Entry Strategies
Posted : 9/26/2021 8:44 AM
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Good morning, Jim…
I believe Ed mentioned it in a video in the past (1-2 years ago???).
I started using it in Omnilanguage to “overlay / view” when VBX-4 was triggering trades on an indicator I’m working on.

It works great for that, but I don’t know of any documentation on it – and I’m really confused by the “default” of SYSIND("",0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0).

For VBX-4 it works with either SYSIND("VBX-4",0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0) or SYSIND("VBX-4").

It doesn’t work just inserting some of the canned Nirvana system names, but I suspect that has something to do with the parameters input.

It certainly has a ton of possibilities, so maybe Barry can pass on some words of wisdom…???

Mark

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Subject : RE: Help with Multiple Entry Strategies
Posted : 9/26/2021 10:40 AM
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Rats. Sorry to hear that it's so limited. I guess they developed it just to meet a particular R&D need, without thinking about how it might be useful for the broader user-base. Sigh.

My guess is that the string of zeros is to allow for parameters to be provided for Systems that have them. But then again, maybe it's just focused on the GA "thing", and the zeroes tailor the GA-pane options somehow.

Doc's certainly would be helpful! And even more so ... fixing things so that ANY SYSTEM, past or future, can be "Called" via this function.

BARRY: could you please look into this, and put it on the new feature request list? Thanks
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Subject : RE: Help with Multiple Entry Strategies
Posted : 9/26/2021 7:51 PM
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Hi Mark and Jim,

A few months ago in December, Ed made a video on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Bz6UUHDmg entitled "OmniTrader 2021 - The Power Of System Indicator Scans" This video goes over SysInd() the most of anything I have seen, and would be a tutorial on that new functionality, and well worth watching.

Please note that SysInd() has been updated since this video, so let's use Mark's example of VBX-4. To use it now, you can type SysInd("VBX-4",13,2) [the default 2 parameters, or whatever you want for the 2 parameters for the system]. It no longer needs all those extra zeros as Ed shows in the video, for the N staff have figured out how to parse the function so that as long as you have the correct # of parameters for a system call, it will work.

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Subject : RE: Help with Multiple Entry Strategies
Posted : 9/26/2021 8:13 PM
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Thanks, Ken!

I hope N creates written docs for things like this. I wouldn't think to look for a video ... nor even know where to find it.

Is it still true that it won't work for "all" System types?
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Subject : RE: Help with Multiple Entry Strategies
Posted : 9/26/2021 10:07 PM
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Hi Jim,

I know it works for all that are in the System block of a trade plan. Beyond that, I don't know.
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Subject : RE: Help with Multiple Entry Strategies
Posted : 9/27/2021 7:01 AM
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Wonderful! Thanks for the info.

Barry: does SysInd() work with ALL Systems created by Nirvana, including Plugins?
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Subject : RE: Help with Multiple Entry Strategies
Posted : 9/27/2021 10:58 AM
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Ah yes, the system indicator function. That is a new feature to OT2021 & yes it was improved in PR2A to allow only the parameters needed for the specific system that it's calling. And if you don't specify any parameters it should just use the default parameters, but I haven't tested it in that way. If it doesn't work without specifying parameters then try it again with the parameters.

Yes Jim, it works with any system whether it's a base system, plugin system, or OmniLanguage system.

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Subject : RE: Help with Multiple Entry Strategies
Posted : 9/27/2021 11:14 AM
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H*U*R*R*A*H !!
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