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aztrix Veteran  Posts: 116 Joined: 6/16/2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia  User Profile |
Many of the ASX symbol names based on User Data are incorrect, see attached for an example of TLS i.e. Telstra https://www2.asx.com.au/markets/company/tls which is mistaken as Telos Please will you let me know whether this is a configuration issue or a bug? Cheers Aztrix  Attached file : OT22 ASX TLS.PNG (89KB - 229 downloads) | ||||
| Barry Cohen Sage    Posts: 6338 Joined: 1/19/2004 User Profile |
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| aztrix Veteran Posts: 116 Joined: 6/16/2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia User Profile |
Or do I still have to change Exchange Information each time I switch profiles? Cheers Bruce | ||||
| Barry Cohen Sage Posts: 6338 Joined: 1/19/2004 User Profile |
You mentioned the volume * close for VEA in the other thread not being right & it's due to the same issue as this watermark issue. VEA is a US symbol too & that value it's calculating is from the US VEA symbol. In other words any symbol that is in both markets is going to cause you problems. The best course of action would be to use 2 separate Windows devices, with OT set to US on one & OT set to AU/ASX on the other. You could use VMWare or something like that on the same PC allowing access to a 2nd Windows running on a virtual machine. That way you can do them both on a single PC. The alternative is to switch databases & profiles whenever you want to switch between US & ASX, especially if you have any symbols that are in both US & ASX markets, which you obviously do. The problems with this are that it's tedious, but also it's very easy to make a mistake & accidently get US symbols targeting Metastock or ASX symbols targeting OmniData. So let's say you have a US profile using OmniData & an ASX profile using Metastock data, & you're currently set to use the US database. To switch you will do the following: 1. Switch to the AU database & ASX exchange under Edit/Exchange Information. 2. Restart OT. 3. Switch to your ASX profile. That would be your normal process. But to get that to work you will first need to get all your Metastock data symbols to target the correct locations while the AU database is in use. To do that, create a temporary profile (File/New) after steps 1-3 above. Then add ALL your ASX symbols from your Metastock folders. That should retarget all your symbols & allow your previous ASX profiles to work properly (watermark & OmniScan). You might need to rerun your analysis in those OmniScan used profiles though first. | ||||
| aztrix Veteran Posts: 116 Joined: 6/16/2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia User Profile |
Firstly I don't believe the VEA issue is the same as the Exchange Information issue even tho the symbols are the same so I will respond to that in the original thread. IMNSHO I don't think 2 devices whether real or virtual is a "reasonable" solution for what is essentially an application design/software issue. Having a Global Exchange Information setting is great but there should be an option to override it in the profile. It would be conceptually simple, if the local i.e. Profile Exchange Information is not set it defaults to the Global Exchange Information setting. I agree it will be tedious switching Exchange Information settings but it's cheaper than 2 devices except in terms of time and hopefully not for long until the Profile Exchange Information settings are implemented :-D That said, the raw data i.e. historical price & volume, should always be determined by the Data Source! More on this in the https://www.omnitrader.com/currentclients/otforum/thread-view.asp?threadid=16534&posts=4 thread My MetaStock data is all setup correctly and I've created an ASX Template Profile so I don't have to do it repetitively for each ASX profile I have. Altho doing quarterly updates is still extremely tedious which begs the question, why can't/doesn't OT automatically sync with my MetaStock folders so I don't have to do this repetitively? The obvious proviso here is that I want all the symbols in the folder which in my case I do because my data provider, Premium Data https://www.premiumdata.net, supports custom folders to meet my needs e.g. Market Cap Lists
See attached for a comprehensive list of typical focus lists provided by OS that UD users would potentially be interested in if it wasn't so cumbersome to manage. I have asked in the past whether OD would be supporting ASX data in the future and got a flat no :-( I've just had a light bulb moment to ease the burden of keeping UD focus lists current, could I code custom lists in the OL IDE and incorporate those in OS? I might have to talk with Jim Dean if he's listening :-) Anyway, many thanks for your continued efforts Barry, I'm definitively not ungrateful so I hope it doesn't come across that way :-) Cheers Aztrix Attached file : ASX All Lists.txt (44KB - 236 downloads) | ||||
| Barry Cohen Sage Posts: 6338 Joined: 1/19/2004 User Profile |
Anything is possible with enough development time, but it's difficult to find the resources to make changes like that. I'm not sure why you would have to retarget your Metastock symbols every 4 months unless your Metastock user data is changing, & if that's the case then yes you would have to retarget. I'm glad you know to use a "template profile" to fix the pointers.
Correct. Our provider does not carry ASX, so we couldn't if we wanted to. But additionally, the exchange charges a very hefty monthly cost to distribute this data. | ||||
| aztrix Veteran Posts: 116 Joined: 6/16/2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia User Profile |
I think you'll find that the constituents of most indexes change quarterly or annually but some almost instantaneously e.g. sector indices, even the Dow Jones Industrial Average, altho it does not change very frequently. I'm pretty sure most S&P indexes including S&P 100, S&P 500, S&P 1500, etc. also change quarterly, not just the S&P ASX indexes. I quote from S&P U.S. Indices Methodology: S&P Equal Weight U.S. Indices. The indices are rebalanced after the market close on the third Friday of the quarter-ending month with weights set to 1/N for each company in the index where N equals the number of companies in the index at rebalancing. At each quarterly rebalancing, companies are equal weighted using closing prices as of the second Friday of the quarter-ending month as the reference price. For those companies having multiple share class lines in the index, each share class line is assigned a weight that is proportional to its FMC as of the second Friday pricing reference date. Since index shares are assigned based on prices one week prior to the rebalancing, the actual weight of each company at the rebalancing differs from the target equal weights due to market movements. S&P Capped Market Cap Weighted U.S. Indices. The indices are rebalanced for reweighting purposes quarterly after the close of business on the third Friday of March, June, September, and December. The rebalancing reference date is the second Friday of March, June, September, and December respectively. Sector Index Reclassifications. A sector index constituent may move from one GICS sub-index to another when a GICS reclassification is made. For any sector index, the company is deleted from the relevant GICS index and added to the other at the time this reclassification occurs for the underlying index. Reference: https://www.spglobal.com/spdji/en/documents/methodologies/methodology-sp-us-indices.pdf In my research I discovered that S&P and Dow Jones have actually merged … | ||||
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| aztrix Veteran Posts: 116 Joined: 6/16/2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia User Profile |
Cheers Aztrix | ||||
| aztrix Veteran Posts: 116 Joined: 6/16/2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia User Profile |
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| aztrix Veteran Posts: 116 Joined: 6/16/2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia User Profile |
I've been using the method you provided for switching between ASX & US profiles which works for the most part but I keep getting the following error: Restart Error Following a restart I get: Error3167: Record is deleted See attached for screenshots and OT logs Cheers Aztrix Attached file : OT22 - Restart Error #0.PNG (5KB - 212 downloads) Attached file : OT22 - Restart Error #1.PNG (4KB - 217 downloads) Attached file : OT22 - Restart Error #2.PNG (4KB - 213 downloads) Attached file : OT_220422_143909.log (23KB - 220 downloads) Attached file : OT_220422_144220.log (19KB - 219 downloads) | ||||
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| aztrix Veteran Posts: 116 Joined: 6/16/2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia User Profile |
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| aztrix Veteran Posts: 116 Joined: 6/16/2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia User Profile |
Attached file : OT.log (74KB - 217 downloads) | ||||
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| aztrix Veteran Posts: 116 Joined: 6/16/2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia User Profile |
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| aztrix Veteran Posts: 116 Joined: 6/16/2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia User Profile |
Hopefully this will resolve the issue Thanks Barry |
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